6 thoughts on “Tulsi Gabbard: Ukraine is Not a democracy”
Gordonsaid:
Tulsi is on the number ……….. no democracy in Ukraine; it is a country run by nazis, and has been since the ‘us-of-a’ stalled the government chosen by V-f***-the eu-nuland (2014).
Lets us not forget, the nazis were supposedly defeated at the end of WW 2; well, that is what we were told !!!
It’s not a democracy because Viktor Yanukovych was removed from power in early 2014 as a result of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution the chairman of parliament Oleksandr Turchynov was appointed to the role of acting president by the Verkhovna Rada. Oleksandr Turchynov was aligned with western ideologies. So there was no election they just seized control and ousted Viktor Yanukovych. The commander of AZOV, the right wing Ukrainian nationalists that like to wear swastikas and sport the SS lightning flashes on their flags, was then elected to parliament andd the deputy commander of AZOV was promoted to the chief of police for the Kiev region. More democracy, see how that works.
Tulsi Gabbard would make a good president. The voice of rationality unlike the rest of the democratic nominees who she stood with in 2020. But of course someone like that would never get the nomination.. The old bloke with dementia who got the nod just encapsulates a collapsing empire but a very dangerous one.
The issue is not the quality of Ukraine’s democratic institutions- institutions that had been quashed under Soviet rule. The issue is the right of a sovereign state to have secure borders. Putin said there was no Ukraine and wagered on the people greeting the Russians just as Russians had welcomed the Naziis as liberators in 1941. The proven response of the Ukrainian population to their loss of nationhood flatly repudiates the Putin hypothesis that ukraine is part of Mother Russia. Lenin and Stalin knew it was a seperate nation when they created the Soviet Union thereby recognizing Ukraine as a sperate entity.
“The issue is not the quality of Ukraine’s democratic institutions- institutions that had been quashed under Soviet rule.”
The country had been in existence from 1917 to 1922 when it became the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which was a founding member of the Soviet Union.
So just 5 years vs 1922 until 1991, 69 years as a soviet state.
You make it sound like the Ukraine is the poster boy for democracy, yet they bombed the hell out of the two seperatist regions for 8 years. They bombed their own people for 8 years!
Do you really think Russia wants Ukraine as part of Russia? Have you missed the bit where they have been saying there should be no NATO allies on our borders, we want neutral countries. Do you recall the Cuban missile crisis? How is this different? Is it OK for the US and NATO to have nuclear missles and bases in Ukraine on the Russian border?
If Ukraine had allowed the separatist refions of Ukraine to become independant then there would not be this mess now. But they didn’t they instead bombed and attacked them. These people do not want to be governed by right wing political groups like AZOV.
The Russians paid the greatest price of all in the fight against the Third Reich they do not want another fascist dictator springing up in Ukraine on their border.
Putin and the Russian ambassodors have been telling NATO and it’s member countries leaders this since 2014 yet they still keep pushing towards Russian borders in contravention to the agreements made during the Regan admisitration when the Russians surrendered Eastern Germany.
Can you please clarify what you meant when you said, “Putin said there was no Ukraine and wagered on the people greeting the Russians just as Russians had welcomed the Naziis as liberators in 1941”
Gordon said:
Tulsi is on the number ……….. no democracy in Ukraine; it is a country run by nazis, and has been since the ‘us-of-a’ stalled the government chosen by V-f***-the eu-nuland (2014).
Lets us not forget, the nazis were supposedly defeated at the end of WW 2; well, that is what we were told !!!
Wake up world …………… sleeping time is over.
cunning5tunt said:
It’s not a democracy because Viktor Yanukovych was removed from power in early 2014 as a result of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution the chairman of parliament Oleksandr Turchynov was appointed to the role of acting president by the Verkhovna Rada. Oleksandr Turchynov was aligned with western ideologies. So there was no election they just seized control and ousted Viktor Yanukovych. The commander of AZOV, the right wing Ukrainian nationalists that like to wear swastikas and sport the SS lightning flashes on their flags, was then elected to parliament andd the deputy commander of AZOV was promoted to the chief of police for the Kiev region. More democracy, see how that works.
Antigone said:
Tulsi Gabbard would make a good president. The voice of rationality unlike the rest of the democratic nominees who she stood with in 2020. But of course someone like that would never get the nomination.. The old bloke with dementia who got the nod just encapsulates a collapsing empire but a very dangerous one.
cunning5tunt said:
Tulsi endorsed the demented old man. God knows why, she should have gone rogue and stepped away from the DNC.
burville said:
The issue is not the quality of Ukraine’s democratic institutions- institutions that had been quashed under Soviet rule. The issue is the right of a sovereign state to have secure borders. Putin said there was no Ukraine and wagered on the people greeting the Russians just as Russians had welcomed the Naziis as liberators in 1941. The proven response of the Ukrainian population to their loss of nationhood flatly repudiates the Putin hypothesis that ukraine is part of Mother Russia. Lenin and Stalin knew it was a seperate nation when they created the Soviet Union thereby recognizing Ukraine as a sperate entity.
cunning5tunt said:
“The issue is not the quality of Ukraine’s democratic institutions- institutions that had been quashed under Soviet rule.”
The country had been in existence from 1917 to 1922 when it became the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which was a founding member of the Soviet Union.
So just 5 years vs 1922 until 1991, 69 years as a soviet state.
You make it sound like the Ukraine is the poster boy for democracy, yet they bombed the hell out of the two seperatist regions for 8 years. They bombed their own people for 8 years!
Do you really think Russia wants Ukraine as part of Russia? Have you missed the bit where they have been saying there should be no NATO allies on our borders, we want neutral countries. Do you recall the Cuban missile crisis? How is this different? Is it OK for the US and NATO to have nuclear missles and bases in Ukraine on the Russian border?
If Ukraine had allowed the separatist refions of Ukraine to become independant then there would not be this mess now. But they didn’t they instead bombed and attacked them. These people do not want to be governed by right wing political groups like AZOV.
The Russians paid the greatest price of all in the fight against the Third Reich they do not want another fascist dictator springing up in Ukraine on their border.
Putin and the Russian ambassodors have been telling NATO and it’s member countries leaders this since 2014 yet they still keep pushing towards Russian borders in contravention to the agreements made during the Regan admisitration when the Russians surrendered Eastern Germany.
Can you please clarify what you meant when you said, “Putin said there was no Ukraine and wagered on the people greeting the Russians just as Russians had welcomed the Naziis as liberators in 1941”