According to the MSM: “New Zealand will deploy a further 120 Defence Force personnel to the United Kingdom to help train Ukraine soldiers to fight against Russian forces. It adds to the 30 personnel sent over in May to train Ukrainian military personnel in operating artillery and the more than $40 million provided in financial support.”
It seems fitting that one corrupt regime would want to spend Taxpayer money to prop up a regime that is even worse.
But as we’ve asked before, why is NZ is effectively fighting Russia along with Biden and NATO? What possible benefits does feeding war in Europe bring NZ? For that matter, what benefits does ongoing destruction bring ordinary Ukrainians? This conflict shouldn’t have happened in the first place and wouldn’t have if Biden and the Democrat Party generally weren’t such pathological haters of all things Russian and encouraged the war.
NZ should have declared neutrality in this conflict and at the outset encouraged both sides to conclude a peace treaty, one that will be adhered to by the Ukrainian regime, as tall a hope as that is.
Hayden Redwood said:
yes sir yes sir I do anything you say sir, gotta wonder about the soldiers themselves….sheep
Brian Johnston said:
We should have sided with Russia.
Ukraine attacked Russians in the Donbas region
Putin goes in to sort it out
It is the prelude to WWII all over again.
Poland attacked Germans left in Polish territory
Hitler goes in to sort it out
We have to be on the Right side
Fonterra cut trade with Russia and hiked the price of butter and cheese to us.
Waikanae watchers said:
NZ should not side with any side in a conflict unless it represents a danger to NZ citizens. That was the case in Afghanistan which was clearly infested with Islamists who were intent on committing terrorist acts against “infidels” anywhere (that’s the case again). However, that wasn’t the case with Iraq, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine.
Brian Johnston said:
I agree with your Iraq, Libya and Syria comment. The war in Afghanistan was over control of poppies.
Ukraine has the lowest standard of living in Europe. They need sorting out.
The Globalist West want Putin’s Nation State destroyed. He is in the way. He is not Marxist and should be supported.
Putin raised the standard of living in Russia. A large slice of NZ will never afford to own a home.
Antigone said:
Unfortunately the ignoramus tyrant has put NZ on the wrong side of history by sending soldiers and resources to a Nazi regime. The veterans of WW2 who fought to rid the world of the Nazis must be turning in their graves.
Brian Johnston said:
Those are not Nazis in Ukraine. Incidently the term Nazi was coined by a journalist and is considered derogatory.
Kolomoisky is Jewish and funds the Azov Battalion. Now why would he fund Nazis.
cunning5tunt said:
“Kolomoisky is Jewish and funds the Azov Battalion. Now why would he fund Nazis.”
The same reason they funded the Third Reich. How did George Soros “have the time of his life” in WWII Nazi Germany.
Jews kill jews, Americans kill americans, Pigs kill pigs because some Pigs are more equal than other pigs.
Antigone said:
The Azov battalion is a Nazi battalion whose hero is Bandera, the WW2 Nazi and I have a bridge to sell you
cunning5tunt said:
“This conflict shouldn’t have happened in the first place and wouldn’t have if Biden and the Democrat Party generally weren’t such pathological haters of all things Russian and encouraged the war.”
It wouldn’t have come to war if Nato and Ukraine had honoured the Minsk agreement.
For 8 years they flaunted that agreement.
Hayden Redwood said:
World war 2 never ended, They just went into the shadows more.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/29/the-nazi-medical-plan-for-control-of-the-planet-ww2-never-ended/
cunning5tunt said:
Churchill said that the Western allies shouldn’t have stopped at Berlin and should have continued on to Moscow.
paora66 said:
Reports of 190 000 Ukranian casualties so far. It’s conscripts to the slaughter. NZ foreign policy is shameless.
cunning5tunt said:
And they will blame Russia and Putin for all the casualties whilst the western leaders are doing the equivalent of giving a pair of scissors to a toddler and telling them to run!
Gordon said:
Where is the logic for this “level of engagement” with Ukraine. With the special military operation by Russia (perhaps) nearing completion, more NZ$$$$$$ going down the drain.
“New Zealand’s recent action of sending soldiers to Britain to train Ukrainians is a futile and reckless endeavour that will do absolutely nothing except confirm the incompetence, arrogance, and ignorant enmity of the New Zealand regime against Russia and its people,” echoes Scott Bennett, former US Army psychological warfare officer and State Department counter-terrorism analyst.
https://sputniknews.com/20220816/us-military-experts-new-zealands-mission-to-train-ukrainians-senseless-given-russias-imminent-win-1099641966.html
The mind (continues) to boggle with “the woman”.
Brian Johnston said:
cunning5tunt.
It was General George Patton that wanted to continue to Moscow. He was murdered.
That SOB Churchill wanted war and war we got.
cunning5tunt said:
Churchill wanted the US to use the A-Bomb on Moscow.
Brian Johnston said:
Churchill worked for Jewish interests
cunning5tunt said:
Look at Hitler’s lineage, his grandparents and who they worked for. There was a name change late in life, for no foreseable reason until Hitler was groomed to lead the fourt reich.
Focusing on one race of people as the reason behind everything is backward when you start to realise that political and warring sides are made of many races on each side. Money men make money and gain power, a persons race means a lot less to them than those two things.
Brian Johnston said:
cunning5tunt: It is all about race and religion. The pathological cruelty the Bolsheviks carried out against the Russian Orthodox Christians is mind shattering.
cunning5tunt said:
I think that is oversimplifying things for the sake of indulging ones own personal beliefs about another race.
Evidence points towards Hitlers grandfather being Jewish.
His grandfather was his grandmother’s employer.
Why did Hitler order the total destruction of his grandmother’s village in July 1938, after Austria was annexed to Germany?
Why did Hitler prohibit any mention of his connection to his grandmother’s village?
Why was Hitler so obsessed with the idea of a Gentile woman having a child with a Jewish employer?
Why was Hitler so anxious to prevent any public discussion of his own ancestry – but only on his father’s side?
People that wish to sieze power, wealth and control will often exploit peoples base beliefs about other races. Just look at how Jacinda and team are doing that very thing today. They incite division to prevent cohesion against them as a means to rule over all.
Brian Johnston said:
Points to is not evidence. You are reading to much into things to support a viewpoint. The village and surrounding area was not good land and chosen for military purposes.
After WWII Churchill said to the effect, WWII was not about beating Germany rather to smash Germany and take German markets. It was a trade war.
1933 World Council of Jewry declared war on Germany to take Germany down.
It is a huge subject. I feel for what Hitler and Germany went through.
David Irving, The Bombing of Dresden by Britain and Germany were war crimes. They bombed civilians.
cunning5tunt said:
Semantics, points to and evidence.
Who was Hitler’s grandfather? New EVIDENCE Suggests Adolf Hitler’s Grandfather was Jewish
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/who-was-hitlers-grandfather-new-evidence-suggests-adolf-hitlers-grandfather-was-jewish-300896402.html
“MALVERN, Pa., Aug. 5, 2019 /PRNewswire/ — New York Times-bestselling author Dr. Leonard Sax has just published a scholarly paper in the peer-reviewed Journal of European Studies, presenting new evidence that Adolf Hitler’s grandfather was Jewish.
Hans Frank was Adolf Hitler’s personal attorney. In Frank’s memoir, published seven years after his execution in 1946 at the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, Frank claimed to have uncovered evidence in 1930 that Hitler’s paternal grandfather was a Jewish man living in Graz, Austria, in the household where Hitler’s grandmother was employed.
Most historians have dismissed Frank’s claim, primarily on the grounds that there were supposedly no Jews living in Graz in 1836, when Hitler’s father Alois Schicklgruber was conceived. This consensus can be traced to a single historian, Nikolaus von Preradovich, who claimed that “not a single Jew” (kein einziger Jude) was living in Graz prior to 1856.
Dr. Sax proves that Preradovich was wrong. Drawing on evidence from Austrian archives from the 1800s, Dr. Sax documents that there was in fact a settled community of Jews living in Graz before 1850. And, Dr. Sax presents overwhelming evidence that Preradovich was a Nazi sympathizer who was offended by the suggestion that Adolf Hitler was a Vierteljude (a one-quarter Jew).
Dr. Sax’s paper shows that the current consensus is based on a lie. Hans Frank, not Preradovich, was telling the truth. Adolf Hitler’s grandfather was Jewish.”
And I fully agree the western powers also were no saints and still aren’t, History (not popular) shows that generally both sides commit war crimes and accuse the other of doing so. The victor writes the popular history. But I think you are making a mistake by assuming that all Jews work together as one team against Christianity whilst ignoring the fact that both Christians and Jews fund both sides of wars. They don’t care about religeon when it comes down to power and money. Just look at how ‘The Family’ operate globally. I’d say it is your view of things that is oversimplified.
Brian Johnston said:
my last comment needs correcting. The bombing of Germany by Britain and America. Britain bombed by night and america by day.
Evidence does not make suggestion. Evidence is. Evidence establishes a fact.
I didn’t assume all Jews work together.
It must be remembered Jew is not a race rather a religion.
cunning5tunt said:
“Evidence establishes a fact.”
Who was Hitler’s grandfather? New EVIDENCE Suggests Adolf Hitler’s Grandfather was Jewish
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/who-was-hitlers-grandfather-new-evidence-suggests-adolf-hitlers-grandfather-was-jewish-300896402.html
cunning5tunt said:
“It must be remembered Jew is not a race rather a religion.”
Good point I should have said religeon instead of race.