from theBFD–
“The government has moved from hushed whispers to out loud warnings that we will all be locked down again if there is just a single case of the much-hyped Delta variant in New Zealand.
“Ardern is desperately looking to ramp up the scare factor, given their latest internal polling has shown that their share of the vote has fallen to 38%, the Greens are mired at 8% and National has now clawed itself to within cooee of Labour on 31%. Act scored a creditable 13% and NZ First is lurking at 4%.
“Labour are in panic mode, and they desperately need another lockdown so people can remember just how wonderful Jacinda Ardern is.”
Given that the PCR tests don’t distinguish the (alleged) China virus variants, whatever suffix they’re given — see the earlier post — the words “of the much-hyped Delta variant ” in the first sentence above are superfluous. —Eds
Roger Dewhurst said:
Ardern is a globalist, an internationalist, a sucker for the UN whose every political move is directed towards a post in the latter organisation. She is not a patriot or loyalist. Her political history demonstrates this. She pushes and promotes the covid jab and actively restricts the drugs that may cure and prevent it. She wants the covid virus hanging over us like the sword of Damocles. It is part of her global agenda. Her covid clowns in the Health Department grovel before her to get their pay. Currently at least eighty New Zealanders have died after the jab. How many have been totally incapacitated, some for life. Are you told? Pigs might fly. Not a single elected politician of any party has the guts to stand up and ask questions in Parliament. She has screwed up on every major issue, covid, climate, housing, immigration, agriculture, education, race, He Puapua. You name it, she has screwed up with her bunch of appointed, often barcoded pseudo-maori, deadwood.
Barbara McKenzie said:
Jacinda Ardern has succeeded, or is succeeding, in everything on “her” agenda: erosion of property rights, dismantling of democracy, destruction of farming, transfer of assets public and private into foreign hands, racial hatred, child abusive education.
Les said:
Roger please provide your data source for your claim that there are “currently at least eighty New Zealanders [who] have died after the jab”.
The most recent figures for NZ up to 24th July, listed by Medsafe from reported adverse reactions to the vaccine:
Reports of non serious = 7297
Reports of serious = 329
Reported deaths = 20*
*There are currently no indications to suggest that the vaccine caused the deaths.
Data source: https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/safety-report-21.asp
Lets deal with the facts, name calling doesn’t progress understanding of this serious topic.
cunning5tunt said:
“Reported deaths = 20*
*There are currently no indications to suggest that the vaccine caused the deaths.”
This and the fact that generally only 10% of adverse reactions get reported should explain everything about the conservative 80 deaths estimate.
You say you deal in “facts”. I bet you also believe the “fact” issued that the vaccines are 95% effective. Well when is a fact not a fact, or when is 95% not 95%?
The below is a comment from last year during their so called testing phase of the vaccine, which is still experimental no matter what any “fact” checker or Medsafe like to claim.
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826
‘This paper (above) in the BMJ gives the data of the test that provided the ‘95% effective’ claim for the C19 vaccine. Do have a look at the abstract then consider……
Of the 21,738 subjects, 99.2% did not test positive (were not counted as ‘cases’) after two placebo doses compared to the 99.96% who did not test positive after two actual vax doses. An absolute efficacy of 0.76%.
In other words, in numbers needed to treat terms (NNT), to prevent fewer than 2 people testing positive 200 need to be vaccinated.
So where does ‘95% effective’ come from?…..
162 subjects out of 21,728 subjects test pos after 2 placebo doses, 8 out of 21,720 test pos after 2 doses of vaccine. 162 to 8 is a relative decrease of 95%.
Most people when they hear 95% effective on the news will believe that means that 95% of those vaccinated will not test positive for covid 19.
Cases of C19 illness:
After the second dose 4 severe covid illnesses were reported in the placebo group and 1 in the vaccine group. (out of more than 43,000 people)
Adverse events (side effects)
27% of subjects reported minor adverse events (such as soreness at injection site) compared to 12% in the placebo group.
There were 4 serious adverse events (unspecified details) in the actual vaccine group.
Deaths
There were no covid deaths reported.
In the vaccine group there were 2 deaths (one atherosclerosis, one heart attack)
In the placebo group there were 4 deaths (one stroke, one heart attack, and 2 unknown)
Nearly all drug data are represented this way – using relative figures rather than absolute, to doctors and the public.
After all if you have inventory to move, 95% effective sells better than 0.76% effective.’
Les said:
Cunning, thanks for the reference to the British Medical Journal from where I followed the link to the original study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine.
You say that most people when they hear 95% effective … believe that means that 95% of those vaccinated will not test positive for covid 19.
The NZ Ministry of Health website says that studies have shown that about 95% of people who received both doses of the vaccine were protected against getting seriously ill. This is different than not testing positive, but I assume they’re also reporting from the same study above and your conclusions that there is less than 1% is still valid?
(https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-and-protection)
cunning5tunt said:
The real issue, here in NZ Les, is that the CARM system is not fully set up and running for the new so called “vaccines”. It is allegedly very difficult to make a report and the system has been inundated with reports of deaths and injuries from this “vaccine” to the point that the system has been “overwhelmed” by the number of reports and has apparently crashed several times. Yet the government and medsafe continue to keep pushing the “vaccines” as safe and effective.
I heard recently through reputable sources, who I will not mention due to fear of exposure and repercussions, that the system has had double the yearly number of reports for death and injury from medication in just a few months since the start of the “vaccine” roll out. Make of that what you will but I know of only one possible group of “vaccines” or “medications” that could be causing that to happen.
I would be interested to hear what you can find out about this. Maybe try calling them yourself and simply asking, you never know you may get an off the record response? Will we get an honest report on the numbers from the government about those reports and what percentage of the estimated total number of actual injuries and deaths there could possibly be? From what I hear the injuries and deaths reported to VAERS normally represents around 10% of all injuries and deaths. We can therefore expect to see similar percentages of deaths and injuries here in NZ as those in the UK and USA, after all we are using the same “vaccines”.
cunning5tunt said:
It must be time for the emergency powers act to be renewed, hence the looming lock down, be it a national one or just Auckland. I’m putting my money on a national one caused by all the vaccinated shedding the spike protein and becoming transmissive after “vaccination” with the gene therapy shot. This will also coincide with the false positives from the useless PCR “test” still being used until November. Under the EPA they can do pretty much what they like and change whatever laws they want. Once the nation of “smiling zombies”* are locked down any chance of fighting against the tranny’s tyranny will be over and done with.
*Passionless People – Gordon McLauchlan 1976
Joyce Glennie said:
Yes, the government is definitely getting us ready for another lockdown. Great news that National and Act (even Winnie) are polling well! Looking forward to seeing the end of Labour at the next elections
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David Wyatt said:
Ardern is a self confessed Socialist (also Chris Hipkins), thus it’s unsurprising that she pushes her own agenda, lies, not transparent and can not deliver on any of her policies of which have all failed
Waikanae watchers said:
In our view she is the most devious, deceptive and dishonest PM the country has ever had.
Barbara McKenzie said:
Given the huge discrepancy between Jacinda’s stated platform and actual, I can only agree.