by Ross Muir

Occasionally I look at TV1’s “News” to see their latest bullshit.

On Saturday night it was the usual lot stirring up trouble, with the media company solidly on the side of the stirrers.

The first misrepresentation: ACT’s move to enshrine Free Speech, especially significant on University Campuses.

There was total ranting that it will make Hate Speech the approved norm, and that they already have complete free speech – Yeah, Right. Don Brash refused permission to speak, Professors who wrote to the Listener heavily censured, careers threatened…. The list goes on. [To Leftists, ‘hate speech’ means any speech they don’t agree with —Eds]

The second one – Ngapuhi iwi celebrations as the Maori Waitangi Tribunal, working off an incorrect document, prepare for the Government to give to the Ngapuhi all the Crown Land in Northland, which they say was stolen by our armed forces seizing it at gunpoint.

In fact, the tribes up there were rebels who didn’t just break the law, they smashed it with their terrible raids etc. The land was taken as Utu, which was Maori law recognised by all tribes as lawful and just. There was no argument at all at the time by all who were fully aware of the situation, however, history gets sanitised and cherry-picked so that now the land was allegedly forcefully stolen — and nobody in Government has the guts to stand up and tell it as it really was, and tell the Ngapuhi and the Waitangi Tribunal to pull their heads in and shut up.

Ngapuhi also claim quite forcefully that they did not cede sovereignty to the Crown (Queen Victoria) and they remain a separate nation with their own “governance”. If that is the case, we should agree with them and immediately stop all handouts, welfare benefits and public works in “their” territory, since that all comes from the agents of the current sovereign.  King – Governor General – Parliament – Ministries – handouts.  If that probable sequence if they want to pursue their claims was announced, all the nonsense would go away from pressure by the vast majority of the local Maori.

by Roger Childs

As regards the Ngapuhi claims, senior Ngapuhi chiefs Tamati Waka Nene and his brother Eruera Patuone spoke in favour of the Treaty on 5 February and signed the next day. Like all the other chiefs who signed, they ceded in Article 1 full sovereignty to the Queen. The Waitangi Tribunal and  other Pro-Maori activists claim that sovereignty was not ceded, but they are wrong and misinterpret the Treaty.

Waka Nene and Patuone were staunch allies of the governor from then on, and helped put down the mid-1840s Hone Heke rebellion in Northland. They decided with the governor, against confiscation of land from Hone Heke and Kawhiti.

Later they opposed the Kingite Rebellion, and at the Kohimarama Conference on 1860 Waka Nene said “ .. let this Governor be our Governor, and this Queen, our Queen. /  Let this Governor be a King to us. /  I know no Sovereign but the Queen and I shall never know any other. I am walking by the side of the Pakeha.”

The history of the 1840s and beyond clearly shows that Ngapuhi did cede sovereignty. There is no evidence to the contrary.

by John Robinson

 I agree fully, it’s all quite strange, just how radical the Waitangi Tribunal has become, out of touch with reality.

Try to get your mind around this, from the summary with the Ngapuhi report:

The Tribunal also found that the Crown seriously breached the Treaty before and during the 1844–46 Northern War, in which Ngāpuhi clashed with British forces. The Crown rejected opportunities to talk with Ngāpuhi leaders about their concerns the Treaty was being ignored and instead took military action against them. Among other failures, it initiated attacks on pā and kāinga, made the surrender of land a condition of peace, and did not adequately consider the welfare of non-combatants.

Is there any truth within that statement?  It’s all lies.  They are off with the fairies.